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Hsocking Hsu Secrets Revealed!
[An important correction to certain details in this post is available here.]
If there's one thing that can be said about Clinton financial scandals, it's that they tend to be complex. And thus far, the Norman Hsu debacle is living up to the archetype.
This rabbit hole is proving to be a fair bit deeper than anyone might've guessed and we're about to plumb its depths. If you're reading this, it means you're taking the red pill.
Two of the biggest open questions were always 1) where is Hsu - a convicted con man and fugitive with no documented ability to turn a legitimate buck - getting these gobs of money, and 2) why is he squandering it on all these Democrats?
These specific Democrats.
We seem to have gotten at least part of the answer to the first question, as Hsu has recently been accused of swindling investors out of as much as $70 million in a variety of Ponzi schemes and other bogus investments. The second question though, has been naggingly impenetrable. After all, if Hsu was simply buying his way into the inner circles of various celebrity politicians, whether for his own ego or to project more credibility and gravitas to his marks (or both), why would his fundraising have been so unwaveringly partisan - targeting only members of the minority party and only very specific members of that party. Hsu's network finance the campaigns of more than 80 Democrats - from Presidential candidates to state legislators and town supervisors. From the newest newbies (including a majority of the first-time candidates who became Senate freshmen this year) to some of the body's dustiest relics (Kennedy, Biden, et al).
Yet Chuck Schumer, for example, Hillary's senior counterpart in New York, never saw a dime. Fellow New York politicians Eliot Spitzer, Andrew Cuomo, Anthony Weiner, Kristen Gillibrand, and others received hundreds of separate contributions, totalling many hundreds of thousands of dollars. Schumer: bubkes.
Debbie Stabenow (D-MI): $29,613... Carl Levin (D-MI): squat. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV): $23,000... Robert Byrd (D-WV): zilch.
You get the idea. The points is that Hsu's specific slate of favored candidates (itemized here) seemed to be deliberate and predetermined and was not satisfyingly explained away by any of his speculated motivations. This has actually been helpful in ferreting out Hsu's donor network though - when you happen on an individual with a huge string of contributions not only to Clinton and Obama, but to several specific Democratic committees and to specific Democrats like Tom Harkin, Patrick Kennedy, Kristen Gillibrand, Dianne Feinstein, and Hsu's other favorites, you've found someone worth looking into.
The mystery of Hsu's candidate slate is a vexing one. Enlightenment, however, appears to be tucked away in a single transaction listed in a NYC Campaign Finance Board disclosure.
Contributor: Norman Hsu
Employer: Next Components
Candidate: Christine Quinn
Amount: $4,950
Date: 6/5/07
Intermediary: Lillian Vernon
This is peculiar. As an A-list Democratic fundraiser, Hsu is typically the bundler in these transactions, not the bundlee. So what gives?
Lillian Vernon is a trinket catalog company, perhaps best known for its constant lampooning on Mad TV. It was founded by Lillian Hochberg in Mount Vernon, NY (clever, eh?) in 1951. Lillian's son Fred is the current CEO and his brother David is an executive at the company.
If you run a search for Fred Hochberg's own federal political contributions, the telltale Hsu pattern once again emerges. The same goes for Lillian Vernon's corporate contributions. From all the federal and state records, as well as the municipal filings in New York, L.A., and San Francisco, I've compiled a full accounting of the donations made by both the company itself and Fred and David Hochberg and updated the Google spreadsheet with a separate Hochberg tab.
Two points are crucial here.
1) Ever since Hsu became a major fundraiser, there have been notable similarities between his and Hochberg/Lillian Vernon's contributions that strain the limits of coincidence. Not only is there significant overlap among several far-flung candidates who wouldn't typically be of much interest to New York businessmen, but the size and timing of many of the transactions further suggest the efforts are coordinated.
10/24/05: Fred Hochberg contributes $2,000 to Ted Kennedy.
10/24/05: A Hsu donor in California contributes $2,100 to Ted Kennedy.6/6/06: Lillian Vernon contributes $25,000 to Eliot Spitzer.
6/7/06: Norman Hsu contributes $25,000 to Eliot Spitzer.1/26/07: Fred Hochberg contributes $2,300 to Hillary Clinton.
1/26/07: Hsu and various Hsu donors across the country make a total of 8 contributions to Hillary Clinton ranging from $1,900-2,100 each.3/28/07: Hsu and various Hsu donors make a total of 11 contributions to Clinton, totaling $23,400 (most at the $2,300 maximum).
3/31/07: Lillian Vernon makes 2 contributions to Clinton, totalling $4,600.5/3/07: Norman Hsu makes 2 contributions to Mark Pryor, totalling $2,500.
5/3/07: Fred Hochberg contributes $2,300 to Mark Pryor.6/5/07: Norman Hsu contributes $4,950 to Christine Quinn, his first and only direct contribution to Quinn.
6/5/07: Lillian Vernon contributes $110 to Chrinstine Quinn, for the first time in 4 years.
Here, the Hsu-slighted senior Senator from New York pitches in by serving as the exception that proves the rule. Schumer actually used to enjoy regular financial support from Hochberg. He and his company made several sizable contributions to Schumer's campaigns between 1997 and 2003... then the gravy train came screeching to a halt. Not a single contribution after March 2003. It's anyone's guess why, but if Chuck did something to sour Hochberg, it would explain his conspicuous absence among both Hochberg's and Hsu's bountiful largesse heaped on just about every other notable Democrat in New York State over the following 4 years.
These are all anecdotal observations of course, but I've made the whole data set of Hsu-related transactions available, so you can go exploring for additional interestingly timed contributions.
2) Hochberg's political benefaction predates Hsu's by several years. While Hsu didn't get his start until 2003 and didn't really hit his stride until late 2004, Lillian Vernon and the Hochbergs contributed more than a half million dollars to Democrats in the decade prior to Hsu's political foray (and more than a quarter million more since). This suggests the slate of candidates whose palms Hsu has chosen to cross with silver these last few years was not the product of either Hsu's own ideology or any specific partisan motivation. It seems more likely that the pols Hsu began to grease were simply co-opted from Hochberg's list of favored candidates.
The fact that the Hsu pattern predates Hsu's career as a Democratic booster means the original architect of the candidate slate is likely near the nexus of Hsu's political awakening, which makes that architect pivotal to the Hsu story. To be clear, this doesn't necessarily imply that Hochberg's contributions (or the many individuals that he bundles) are tainted the way contributions from Hsu's donor network are. Hochberg may well have gone on making these same contributions had Hsu never entered the picture. The significance of the Hsu pattern actually being a borrowed Hochberg pattern is that it strongly implies a close and ongoing association between Hsu and Hochberg.
The contribution patterns alone are sufficient to draw that inference, but as you might guess, we're not done descending the rabbit hole.
But wait... there's more. Some cursory digging on Fred Hochberg reveals something interesting. He's a fellow HillRaiser. Thanks to a bit of alphabetical kismet, you can see his name directly above Hsu's on Hillary's official HillRaiser roster. [Update: Hillary finally removed Hsu from her list, but there's the screenshot.]
But wait... there's still more. Hochberg is also a dean at the New School, where Hsu was a trustee until this scandal broke last month and the school hurriedly removed his name from their website. Also on the New School board is Bernard Schwartz, one of Bill Clinton's biggest financial backers and the central figure in Clinton's scandal involving the sale of missile technology to China.
And the lily gilder: Fred Hochberg was a member of President Clinton's Cabinet.
Yes, Fred Hochberg, a dean at the school where Hsu served as a trustee, one of Hsu's fellow HillRaisers, CEO of the company that officially bundled at least one of Hsu's direct contributions as recently as this summer, and the apparent architect of Hsu's favored candidate slate, was installed as one of the country's senior-most federal policymakers by Bill Clinton.
Hochberg was tapped to become the SBA's deputy adminstrator in 1998 and some time thereafter became the acting administrator. The SBA administrator is not a current Cabinet-level position. Clinton elevated the position to Cabinet rank, a move Bush has undone. Not long before his executive appointment, Hochberg had enjoyed another kind of Presidential access, as a member of Clinton's bescandaled "White House Coffee" guest list.
So.
Where does all this leave us? There are still a lot of details yet to emerge that will undoubtedly shed additional light on these linakges, but it seems quite clear that Norman Hsu and Fred Hochberg are and have for some time been closely associated. It's abundantly clear that the Clintons and Hochberg are quite intimately associated. This seems to draw Hsu and Clinton uncomfortably close to one another.
And while the complexity and duplicity that saturates this whole affair may offer Hillary a bit of confusion cover that she can use to equivocate when pressed, it's now becoming increasingly far-fetched that Hillary took Norman Hsu for no more than a kindly, deep-pocketed fan.
Let's just say it requires a willing suspension of disbelief.
For those of you waiting for the newest data update, it's all polished up and uploaded to the Google doc. A couple notes about this iteration:
- The grand total is now $2.56 million (within 1% of the Abramoff threshold)
- 3 new contributors have been added since the last update
- Khin Mon
Homemaker, Daly City, CA
Total contributions: $12,100 from 2005-2006
Contributed to Hillary: $4,200 - Solange Sandy
Actress, New York, NY
Total contributions: $35,450 from 2005-2007
Contributed to Hillary: $4,200 - Suzanne Raffaelli
Model, New York, NY
Total contributions: $86,250 from 2004-2007
Contributed to Hillary: $7,800
- Khin Mon
- Exciting note about Khin Mon - according to the campaign finance disclosures, she lives with the many Paws who occupy that cozy green house on Shelbourne Avenue in Daly City, CA.
- Recipients of Hsu-connected funds: 85 Democratic candidates and candidate PACs, 22 Democratic committees and state parties, 1 Republican candidate
- Cooling their heels on the periphery, awaiting further review of their contribution patterns and relationship to Hsu and his business interests are 3 possible Hsu family members (not including his ex-wife), accounting for more than $200,000 in contributions; a group of law firm employees, accounting for more than $100,000 in contributions; two individuals, accounting for a combined $60,000 in contributions; and the New York family referenced in the last update, accounting for up to $700,000 in contributions.

Also blogging this today:
Ace of Spades (who hauled out the flaming skull for the occasion), Instapundit, Allah (praise him), LGF, Power Line, Captain Ed, Flopping Aces, Blue Crab Boulevard, JammieWearingFool, Right Voices. Together, they're bathing this site in a terribly agreeable traffic flood.
Previously:
Runaround Hsu: The Music Video
Hillary, Truth Not At Peace Over $850,000 Said Refunded [Update: Feds File Charges]
Another Clinton Bundler Accused of Reimbursing Donors
Hsu, Recobbled
Some Oddities About Hsu's Ostensibly Unwitting Woodstock Backer
Mesa County DA: $4 Million Bond Not Enough To Cage Hsu [Update: $5 Million Is?]
Dems Lowballing Hsu Fundraising Totals [Update: Hsu Offsets?]
Hsu Sent Suicide Note [Update: Blaming Obama]
Federal Agencies Unofficially Probing Hsu Scandal Number [At Least] 4
Hsu's Financing Source Revealed
Hillary's Massive Hsu War Chest: Abramoff Parity Nears
Photoblog: Touring Norman Hsu's New York
Hsu Captured! (Drugged?)
Hsu Still A HillRaiser In Good Standing?
Knock, Knock, Knockin' On Norman's Door.
Hsu Reclaims Fugitive Status, Forfeiting $2 Million Bail
Hsu vs. Abramoff
New Hsu Review: Following [the Rest Of] the Money
A Really Big Hsu...
Hillary Vows To Give [At Least Some Of] Hsu Contributions To Charity
From Now On, When the Phone Rings You Say, "Vandelay Industries."
Hillary's Magwitch?
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Comments
Flip, You are amazing. If only the FBI were as tenacious as you. I do have a problem believing that this FBI Complaint is the TRUTH, the WHOLE TRUTH, and NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH. The FBI Complaint stated Hsu engaged in only short term investments. Where did Hsu get the capital to be able to constantly payoff short term investors? It seems to me that a Ponzi scheme can only work when somebody lends money with the expectation that they will get the money back several years in the future. In Hsu’s case he was paying off his investors every three months. Hsu would also have had the expenses of his lavish lifestyle and the political contributions. Something does not add up. From a portion of the complaint: “Over the course of the next two years, Victim-1 continued to invest in deals with NORMAN HSU, the defendant, investing in increasingly larger amounts and generally reinvesting his/her proceeds from each deal. For each deal, Victim-1 gave his/her investment money to HSU and, in return, HSU provided Victim-1 with an agreement and a post-dated check. For each deal, the post-dated check represented the investment money plus interest. Each time the post-dated check came due, Victim-1 cashed the check and realized a profit on his/her initial investment.”Posted by: Larry | Sep 21, 2007 10:04:13 AM
Nice work. I think important question remain 1. Did the Hochberg's commit illegal actions in bundling contributions? 2. Are others involved in similar bundling schemes? 3. Are democratic operatives at local or national levels complicit in illegal bundling schemes? Stay at it. Doug Santo Pasadena, CAPosted by: Doug Santo | Sep 21, 2007 10:28:43 AM
Flip-You have outdone yourself!Posted by: admiringuy | Sep 21, 2007 10:51:48 AM
Flip-- I would argue that while Schumer's campaign didn't get a dime he DID get Hsu money - the Dem Senatorial Committee - big bucks tooPosted by: Topsecretk9 | Sep 21, 2007 11:24:57 AM
Superb work Flip! And thank you for pointing out the comparison with Jack Abramoff. Your readers will recall that during the Abramoff scandal Senator Harry Reid, who also took money from Abramoff clients and did work on their behalf, insisted time and again that it was a "Republican scandal." And Democrats ran that "culture of corruption" theme throughout the 2006 election campaign. There is NO DOUBT that the Hsu scandal is a purely DEMOCRAT SCANDAL and yet where are our Senators, Representatives and Party Spokespeople highlighting this issue? I have heard almost nothing from the GOP communications shop. Are they asleep again? Another great opportunity to point out Democrat corruption and lawbreaking is being sqaundered. But thank you for doing the work that our GOP communications and research teams SHOULD be doing!Posted by: Mike's America | Sep 21, 2007 11:37:29 AM
Keep it up.... Does Jay Rosen know about you-? Does FOX News-? This could be start of good things for you... I hope to see you succeed and be recognized. The whole Blog-O-Sphere benefits when original work starts to influce Establishment Media reporting... The comparison to Abramhof is F-N Brilliant-! What the Blog-O-Sphere does best, investigative research and perspective... Immediacy we can get anywhere. Perspective is hard to find... ThanksPosted by: AndyJ | Sep 21, 2007 12:35:55 PM
Awesome work. Keep your pets inside. You can probably get a tax deduction for a bodyguard.Posted by: J2 | Sep 21, 2007 12:40:27 PM
Flip- Ignore any emails or snail mail invites you receive to attend that Fort Marcy Park Chinese Day celebration next month.Posted by: Hugh Beaumont | Sep 21, 2007 1:09:53 PM
Do you suppose that the good Mr Hsu heard of the Marc Rich pardon?Posted by: Ken Brauer | Sep 21, 2007 1:16:04 PM
you are failing to consider the possibility that the inexplicable absence of certain donation recipients like Schumer suggests that they had knowledge that Hsu was dirty and were keeping their own hands clean while steering Hsu's donations to others. What did Schumer know and when did he know it?Posted by: m | Sep 21, 2007 1:59:10 PM
I am in awe, Flip. Brilliant work!!Posted by: clarice | Sep 21, 2007 2:06:02 PM
Bill has taken money from the PRC before when he was President. Most of the prison system in China is run by the Chinese Army and Organs of the Secret Police. Utilizing slave labor to make the clothing, they could have give Mr. Hsu a very good deal and he could have said thank you by giving it to the Hill campaign and other Democrats as it was intended. If he is caught, it could be said that he is just a criminal running a Ponzi scheme on poor Democrats, if he is not caught the PRC owns a President, Senators and Congressmen/women. Why couldn't Mr. Hsu just be a cutout to protect the source of the money and why couldn't Mr. Rosemann be complicit. Such an easy way to own a political party and the PRC would have the only proof of the paper trail. Why act on the assumption that very smart people became so stupid, the PRC gave $500,000 to the DNC before, you think they've stopped trying to subvert the United States? Just ask the security people in Silicon Valley, they [PRC] are very active and this is where Hsu is from.Posted by: ronnor | Sep 21, 2007 2:22:29 PM
Hsu's name has been removed from the linked Hillraisers list. I hope someone has a screen shot capture of the the list prior to the editing.Posted by: Bill | Sep 21, 2007 2:28:50 PM
You're in the right place, Bill. Screenshot here: http://suitablyflip.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/2007/09/06/hillraisers.jpg Original post: http://suitablyflip.blogs.com/suitably_flip/2007/09/hsu-still-a-hil.htmlPosted by: Flip | Sep 21, 2007 2:35:46 PM
Great post. You are on a roll.Posted by: Extraneus | Sep 21, 2007 2:47:30 PM
Thanks, Flip, for capturing the Hsufly before the flyswatter got him.Posted by: Bill | Sep 21, 2007 3:03:15 PM
Guess what, as of 2 PM 9/21 I went to the Hillraisers page you linked and could not find Hsu's name anywhere. I searched for "Hsu" and "Norman". Strange. As for your question #2, maybe Hsu was donating to get close to other marks. Sort of seeding the scam. Appearing at those fundraisers as a bigwig might cause the potential marks not to check into Hsu's past. Remember, the left cares only about appearance, not substance.Posted by: G. Hamid | Sep 21, 2007 3:06:43 PM
Flip great work- He [Hochberg] and his company made several sizable contributions to Schumer's campaigns between 1997 and 2003... then the gravy train came screeching to a halt. Interesting, that was the time frame that Oil-for-Food ran and I remember a while back that ex-Sen.Torricelli got caught up* when the Iraq Oil ministry papers started to leak out. *http://newsbusters.org/node/5449/ Also I'm curious of the New School angle in all of this?Posted by: RichatUF | Sep 21, 2007 3:21:20 PM
"maybe Hsu was donating to get close to other marks. Sort of seeding the scam." I don't buy it. A ponzi scheme is all about you and your scam looking way richer than you are in order to fool people into giving you money, and then when you can't keep up the appearence any longer, skipping out. You don't have the money at the beginning of the scam, you have it at the end. These donations, and the high-society hob-knobbing that went along with them, cost a lot of real money. What you are suggesting is like "seeding" your field with 100 bushels of seed and then "harvesting" 10 bushels at the end. It's like Larry said in the first comment -- the numbers just don't add up for a ponzi scheme. If this is a ponzi scheme, it is the first one in the history of ponzi schemes to ever actually created money. ' It has to be something else... Here's a question -- what percentage of Lilian Vernon merchandise is Made in China? Just like ronner detailed how you could use a "business" in Chinese-made clothing to launder PRC campaign contributions, you could use a business that sells any Chinese-made merchandise to the same effect.Posted by: cathyf | Sep 21, 2007 3:58:22 PM
I linked from Captains Quarters, my first time here. Fine work. From Emmett Tyrrell The Clinton Crack-Up page 217. " By 2004 no senator [except Clinton] since Johnson had amassed so much power so fast. *** at a closed-door meeting with fellow Democrats she assailed her colleague Senator Russ Feingold for the mischief his campaign finance bill had caused her fundraising. 'She tore into Feingold,' a Senate aide says. Other people at the caucus were not happy about it. *** ' "Posted by: burt | Sep 21, 2007 4:25:54 PM
Awesome job. I'm getting old, I remember when reporters used to follow-up on stuff like this....Posted by: Jim,MtnViewCa,USA | Sep 21, 2007 4:33:39 PM
cathyf, According to Flip's latest data set Hsu donated 2.5 million dollars to the Dems, both directly and through strawmen. Hsu recieved 40 million dollars from the Woodstock dude Rosenman. If Hsu met Rosenmen at one of the Dem events Hsu bought his way into then Hsu turned a fine profit. I don't know, I'm just guessing. Who knows what these loons actually did. I commented mostly to point out that as of this afternoon Hsu is no longer on the "Hillraiser" list.Posted by: G. Hamid | Sep 21, 2007 4:56:14 PM
I went to the Hillraisers page you linked and could not find Hsu's name anywhere Posted by: G. Hamid | Sep 21, 2007 3:06:43 PM Yup he has been removed from the Hillraiser page which goes contrary to what the Clinton campaign said they were going to do http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/09/21/hsu_still_a_hillraiser_at_leas.html No, Clinton campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson said this morning. The campaign has decided it does not wish to air brush history, and will stay true to its commitment to exhibit the names of Clinton's bundlers. "The list is a list of people who have raised money for the campaign in excess of $100,000," Wolfson said. "Once his money is returned, that will no longer be the case for him, and we will take his name down."Posted by: JustADude | Sep 21, 2007 5:22:04 PM
Great work, but it raises almost as many questions as it answers. What, after all, was Hsu's motivation for getting involved in this scheme? Why would he play bagman for Hochberg and either forgo keeping the profits from his swindling himself, or risk a long stay in Club Fed should he get caught for a few political Attaboy's? The trustee position doesn't seem like adequate compensation for what Hsu was putting into the deal. There seems to be at least one more big missing piece of the puzzle here. Anybody checked the list of officers and board members for Clinton's library for correspondence? That would be another handy method for covertly compensating heavy contributors.Posted by: Socratease | Sep 21, 2007 6:08:57 PM
WOW...this is REALLY impressive work.Posted by: The Anchoress | Sep 21, 2007 6:43:28 PM

