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Hillary's 3Q Refunds Part III: Pry It From My Senate Campaign's Cold, Dead Hands

Not only are the 249 refunds sent by the Clinton campaign to Hsu-connected donors riddled with inaccurate mailing addresses, but now the campaign is vowing to keep any money these donors gave to her Senate campaign or to HillPAC (more than a quarter million dollars, according to the LA Times).

I noted Monday night that even among just the 26 Hsu contributors we knew about prior to the Q3 filing, there was a refund discrepancy of $125,000 related to the Senate and PAC money.  Turns out at least 50 other Hsu donors also sent part of their contributions through these doors (doors which, of course, ultimately led to the Presidential campaign via the candidate's $10 million inter-committee transfer in the first quarter).  And Hillary's happy to keep it.

"Because we did not keep track of contributions in the same way during the Senate campaign we have no basis for knowing that these individuals were solicited by Norman Hsu," said Clinton campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson. He said the Clinton campaign had gone beyond what it was legally or ethically bound to do when it gave back the presidential contributions.

That's tough to sync up with what Clinton said on Meet the Press on September 23rd.

[O]ut of an abundance of caution, we did return any contribution that we could in any way, no matter how indirect, link to [Hsu].

I'd say donors whose Presidential contributions were explicitly bundled by Hsu remain at least indirectly linked to Hsu when they contribute via her other committees.  Here's an easy rule of thumb to fulfill that "abundance of caution": anyone bundled by Hsu gets all their money back.

Among the donations whose connection to Hsu the campaign has "no basis for knowing" are more than $30,000 from the California Paws, the poster family of the Norman Hsu scandal.  So far, Clinton has refunded just $23,000 to the Paws (less than half of what they gave her).

And how about Danny Lee (another of the original Hsu-linked donors, whose home address was once listed by Norman Hsu as his own).  Out of an "abundance of caution", Hillary saw fit to refund $4,600 to Lee, but not the other $20,000 he "contributed" ($9,000 of which came in after the 2006 election).  Lee's co-habitants Soe Win Lee and Yu Fen Huang also each gave Clinton $9,000 after the 2006 election which is not being returned (despite the campaign returning their most recent donations, in an abundance of caution).

Between the Paws and the Lees alone (Hsu's easily identifiable heaviest hitters), Clinton is under-refunding by $70,000.  The mind boggles at the campaign not being able to find any link "no matter how indirect" between these donations and Norman Hsu.

In choosing to keep the $250,000 in Hsu-connected money that came in through the PAC and Senate committees, simply because the official bundler of such donations wasn't recorded, the Clinton campaign seems to signal it's forgetting (or dismissing) the fact that these funds aren't tainted only because they were solicited by a career criminal and serial fugitive.  The funds are tainted because that criminal is accused of reimbursing some of the nominal "contributors".  Further, the criminal complaints against Hsu allege that he financed his massive and fraudulent contributions with money he swindled out of more than a hundred investors.  The FBI, the SEC, the FEC, and at least one U.S. Attorney's office are investigating and the alleged victims are hoping to recover the $60 million they say Hsu stole from them.

For Clinton to be winkingly holding on to hundreds of thousands of dollars that can be quite readily linked to Hsu (as easily as referencing her own refund roster) shows an abundance of something, but it's not caution.


Previous Norman Hsu coverage.

Update:  Commenting on yesterday's post about 47% of Hillary's Q3 refunds being sent to the wrong ZIP code, reader and postal worker Terri confirms, "Wrong zip code with correct address will be RTS, Return to Sender. The post office does not take the time to look up the correct zip code and manually fix and re-route."

What a financially serendipitous series of 118 clerical errors for the campaign to make.

Update:  I've e-mailed the campaign, asking if they have any insights into what happened with the bum ZIPs and whether they plan to re-issue the refunds if they're returned to sender.  Some of the 118 were for nearby or possibly synonymous towns, but 66 of them were clear out-of-state (accounting for more than $140,000 in refunds issued).  I've put those 66 into a new tab in the spreadsheet, available here, which I also pointed out to the Clinton campaign.

I've also asked one of the SFI (the New York fund) investors who did receive his refund check, despite being listed with a bad (though nearby) ZIP, to check the paperwork and see which one the campaign used in the actual mailing.  If it shows his correct ZIP code, then this issue appears to be just a matter of a hundred or so clerical errors in the filing itself.  If it shows the wrong one, then it's a good bet that much of the $140,000 will have truly gone astray (and as a result, will be retained by Clinton, unless she fixes the addresses and re-issues the refunds).

Update:  I've heard back from one of the NYC donors listed in the filing with a bad ZIP code.  While he didn't keep the envelope, the letter enclosed with his refund reflected his correct ZIP code, so it seems likely that this was a foul up contained at the disclosure level.  The campaign ought to file an amended report so the database will be accurate, but hopefully the refunds (while frequently partial) will all reach their addressees.

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Also on some of the refunds to the Paws they can't even spell Daly City right.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 10:56:37 AM

Alice , Dimple and Marina Paw have returns going to Dale City. Also Dimple has his going to an address other than Shelbourne Ave.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 10:59:21 AM

Another thing that is strange is Dimple Paw goes to 406 Florence St Dale City and another refund to Stanley Lim goes to 406 Florence St Daly City. Room mates in Daly City?

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 11:01:23 AM

Just for the heck of it to see some of the zipcode damage to the refunds, I took the whole list of refunds in excell and sorted just on ascending street name. Member of the same family at the same address are showing up in different zipcodes for example the David Rodewald family. Also I am picking up donors who are room mates by having the same address.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 11:14:11 AM

The ZIPs appear to be the right ones, just shuffled. So you'll see families split up and non-relatives suddenly moving in together.

Posted by: Flip | Oct 17, 2007 11:19:34 AM

I picked up on a couple of refunds outside the 9/14 date sent you email.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 12:48:42 PM

So the checks will be returned to the campaign anyway by "virtue" of not being sent to the correct zipcode? Is there NOTHING sleezy enough for this "fill-in-the-blank" to do?? Wow!! What a story you've got ahold of, Flip!!

Posted by: cornhusker | Oct 17, 2007 1:08:48 PM

Looks like Hillary may have made a boo boo. Allison Weiss got a refund but it looks like it got sent to a NYC zipcode where another Allison Weiss who only donates republican lives.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 2:28:32 PM

Re the Zipcode issue. You wrote:"If it shows his correct ZIP code, then this issue appears to be just a matter of a hundred or so clerical errors in the filing itself." This hundred or so clerical errors will also muck up the computer databases. On a future search by zipcode, the original donation will not be in the same zipcode as the refund. Done purposely? Who knows.

Posted by: Larry | Oct 17, 2007 3:39:50 PM

Larry, definitely right that this will foul up the databases. Even if it turns out that the refunds went out properly addressed, this probably warrants an amended filing.

Posted by: Flip | Oct 17, 2007 4:44:45 PM

“A California court ruled Tuesday that Hillary Clinton will not be a defendant in a fraud lawsuit brought by Hollywood mogul Peter Paul, who claimed the Clintons destroyed his business after he raised millions for her first Senate campaign in 2000. But she could still be a material witness and be required to testify about what she knew concerning alleged illegal campaign fundraising.“ “California Superior Court Judge Aurelio Munoz, who ruled Sen. Clinton would not be a defendant, warned Clinton attorney David Kendall last year not to try to block her deposition during discovery. “Any opposition is probably going to be dead on arrival,” the judge said.” Via Patterico's Pontifications

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 17, 2007 11:49:26 PM

Last year, the firm was indicted on federal charges of fraud and bribery. But the political partnership has not been entirely severed. Since the indictment, 26 Democrats around the country, including four presidential candidates, have accepted $150,000 in campaign contributions from people connected to Milberg Weiss, according to state and federal campaign finance records. And some Democrats have taken public actions that potentially helped the firm or its former partners. The recent contributors include current and former Milberg partners who had either been indicted or were widely reported to be facing potential criminal problems when they wrote their checks. One of them, William S. Lerach, was a fund-raiser for John Edwards’s presidential campaign until his guilty plea last month. Melvyn I. Weiss, a founder of the firm, gave the maximum $4,600 to Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in June. Other firm members contributed to the presidential campaigns of Senators Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 18, 2007 2:00:37 AM

Christine Quinn, speaker of the City Council, partied with tainted Democratic fundraiser Norman Hsu months before Hsu traded in his business suit for a jail-issued jumpsuit and handcuffs. On April 20th, Quinn attended a Midtown party Hsu hosted for Hillary Clinton, and on July 9th, she mingled with upstate Congresswoman Kirstin Gillibrand at Hsu's SoHo apartment. The party dates are listed on Christine Quinn's schedule, which NY1 obtained through the state's Freedom of Information laws.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 18, 2007 2:05:16 AM

For a closer look at the personalities behind this season's flow of campaign cash, The Wall Street Journal analyzed data provided by the Democratic and Republican presidential campaigns. The Journal also commissioned data and analysis from two nonpartisan groups that track money in politics. According to a study by one of the groups, Washington-based Public Citizen, the number of bundlers in presidential races has reached 2,045 so far in the 2008 election, up from 1,173 in the 2004 election. There were 269 in 2000. Bundlers raised at least $109 million for the presidential candidates during the first nine months of the 2008 campaign. That figure is based on the number of bundlers that Public Citizen says raised money for each campaign, multiplied by the minimum amount that campaigns and fund-raisers say they are required to bring in to be considered bundlers. The actual share contributed by bundlers is likely higher, because top practitioners raise far more than the minimum -- nearly $1 million in Mr. Hsu's instance. The funds bundled so far this election cycle represent at least 28% of the record $379 million raised overall for this campaign. By comparison, figures compiled by Public Citizen show bundlers accounted for 18% of funds raised in the 2004 contest, and 8% in 2000. A name-by-name analysis of bundlers reveals that this year's operatives are drawn from the same pools as fund-raisers past. Lawyers account for about 27% of the bundlers named by Public Citizen, according to an analysis of that list conducted for the Journal by the Washington-based Center for Responsive Politics. Another 11% work in securities and investment and 8% in real estate. Lobbyists account for about 3% of these fund-raisers. The Center for Responsive Politics said it couldn't determine the occupations of 15% of the bundlers named by Public Citizen. Global law firm DLA Piper is home to five presidential bundlers, including three for Mrs. Clinton, the analysis reveals. Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLC employs five, two of them for Democrat Sen. Barack Obama. Finance, too, has its voice: Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. each employ five bundlers. Other Wall Street players with multiple bundlers include J.P. Morgan Chase & Co., Citigroup Inc. and Credit Suisse Group. The entertainment industry accounts for about 4% of the bundlers for the presidential campaign -- predominantly for Democrats -- including five at DreamWorks Animation SKG Inc.

Posted by: JustADude | Oct 18, 2007 2:09:46 AM

Has anyone, EVER, seen a receipt or a cancelled check for ANY Clinton refund at any time between 1978 and 2007? Just curious :-)

Posted by: Sardonicus | Oct 19, 2007 7:49:15 PM

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